You’re absolutely right, James! I was particularly disgusted but not surprised by the blasphemous sacrilege of the ‘activity’ at the South Carolina Lutheran church. This church is part of the very liberal Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA) synod as opposed to the conservative Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS). This kind of creeping evil is making its way into the Lutheran Church of Australia - not that anyone is yet practising this sort of blasphemy - I take your point, James, that the weird and the destructive can very easily become the ‘norm’. The onus is on decent, moral, godly people (like all of us!) to pray at all times for God’s will to be done and to pushback wherever we can in His holy name.
I am a conservative confessional Lutheran and it appalls me that people are so easily deceived. We’ve been in end times since Jesus’ ascension. This Greenville ‘church’ example illustrates perfectly Daniel’s words in Daniel 9:27 and 11:31 - ‘They shall abolish the regular burnt offering and set up the abomination that makes desolate’. Satan has always been hyperactive in the church but this takes it to new levels. Lord have mercy on us!
I find Jude spells out this ongoing attempt at twisting truth. Vs 22 encourages us to love all people but hate sin. So I pray for wisdom to live that love in challenging times but also not to accept the increasing lies. Unfortunately we are experiencing a time of fluid truth where facts are measured by feelings/ popular culture etc. However, the truth is not fluid. Everyones truth will be measured by His truth. Our hope is in His love, mercy and grace despite our fallen state.
This article took me back when churches started "normalised" divorce and remarriage and look where are we now. The evil needs just a small opening and then he will blow up the gates.
This is the ‘slippery slope’ argument. I think we have to be careful of not being more righteous than Jesus, who allowed divorce because of hard hearts... meaning, I understand, because of sin which is in us all. Every doctrine has to be carefully weighed up with Scripture, and reformed according to Scripture. You can reform your view of something basing it on honest evaluation of Scripture read in context and as the writer meant it to be understood at the time, without going down ‘the slippery slope’. I don’t encourage divorce and have been married myself for almost 40 years, but know Christian people can divorce without sliding into heresy.
Everything starts with "not being more wrighteous than Jesus ". As my old pastor used to say: "people go to chemist and buy medicines and get heal or buy poison and get killed, same applies to the bible ". Depends how we read or twist what we read. I will say sometimes we try to be more loving than Jesus (we think we are more loving).
I’m just saying to stick with what the Bible actually teaches contextually and with proper interpretative methods- and steer away from what evangelical culture can construe is the Bible but may not actually be. The church has in many ways become a law unto itself. It can be surprising how far we can get while still thinking we are biblical. Just need to be humbly always checking our views to see if it’s what Jesus actually taught.
Good to have a polite/Christian type discussion. Can you give the verses from the new testament (said by the Lord Jesus and the apostles) on this subject so that I can meditate on them?
Matt 19:1-12. Jesus talking about men divorcing their wives- not wives divorcing husbands which isn’t mentioned here. Maybe looking in different translations and some commentaries may shed extra insight. Clearly it is not God’s initial Desire or design, but is permitted. This probably isn’t the best place to keep discussing, but thanks for the challenge and chat.
Wow, that was spot on! I have sent it to my Pastor to read. Same vocabulary, different dictionary. Look what happened when man built the Tower of Babel!
Yep... like the frog in the slowly heating pot, you know whatever we are being desensitised to now will become accepted and celebrated in the not too distant future. Think same sex marriage, more liberal abortion reforms and children being told the lie that they can decide their gender from pre school age. They all began with the idea of tolerance and acceptance until it's 'join with us and celebrate or be excommunicated from society'. I believe we are very close to having the holy grail for sexual deviants being added to the alphabet soup of 'diversity'... the letter 'P'. No prizes for guessing what that stands for. It's the children they've been targeting all along. All in the name of inclusion and tolerance of course.
As for the abomination of a 'church' service in your article and the heretic running it... let's be honest, none of it is any more Christian than grime under the rim of your average toilet bowl.
But it IS scriptural for sure - or at least a confirmation of scripture. The great falling away from truth... 'For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears' (2 Tim 4:3)... but who knew they'd be itching their ears with feather boas?
'Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.' (Matt 7:13)... that wide path sounds a lot like inclusion to me. There's room for all on the wide road with no need to change or be transformed or, dare I say, be born again.
Love my daily dose of Jame Macpherson... a voice of sanity in a world where that is fast becoming a rarity. Stay the course.
I love your use of words James far more then the woke usage of them. You warning is very timely James. While not as fringe as this bloke it has already started its normalisation in Australian churches.
What I took from Brinn’s sermon is that sin is now classified/identified as ‘unity’ and we should be inclusive to all sin.
Great take James!
You’re absolutely right, James! I was particularly disgusted but not surprised by the blasphemous sacrilege of the ‘activity’ at the South Carolina Lutheran church. This church is part of the very liberal Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA) synod as opposed to the conservative Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS). This kind of creeping evil is making its way into the Lutheran Church of Australia - not that anyone is yet practising this sort of blasphemy - I take your point, James, that the weird and the destructive can very easily become the ‘norm’. The onus is on decent, moral, godly people (like all of us!) to pray at all times for God’s will to be done and to pushback wherever we can in His holy name.
I am a conservative confessional Lutheran and it appalls me that people are so easily deceived. We’ve been in end times since Jesus’ ascension. This Greenville ‘church’ example illustrates perfectly Daniel’s words in Daniel 9:27 and 11:31 - ‘They shall abolish the regular burnt offering and set up the abomination that makes desolate’. Satan has always been hyperactive in the church but this takes it to new levels. Lord have mercy on us!
I find Jude spells out this ongoing attempt at twisting truth. Vs 22 encourages us to love all people but hate sin. So I pray for wisdom to live that love in challenging times but also not to accept the increasing lies. Unfortunately we are experiencing a time of fluid truth where facts are measured by feelings/ popular culture etc. However, the truth is not fluid. Everyones truth will be measured by His truth. Our hope is in His love, mercy and grace despite our fallen state.
I can hear it now to a lively beat;
1,2, a 1,2,3,4…!
“Lift up your stilettos the Q——King is coming, wash off your makeup in the baptism font-yeah!
Crush the tenets of that old washed up faith. Lift up your heavy lashes (I mean arms) and give your god praise”
Selah
Water down theology until it trickles like honey down your throats…passivity tastes so good. (*double clap)
Praise him/her/she/he/they/them in the morning or praise him however and whomever for wokever!!! Yay.
Repeat ad infinitum.
This article took me back when churches started "normalised" divorce and remarriage and look where are we now. The evil needs just a small opening and then he will blow up the gates.
This is the ‘slippery slope’ argument. I think we have to be careful of not being more righteous than Jesus, who allowed divorce because of hard hearts... meaning, I understand, because of sin which is in us all. Every doctrine has to be carefully weighed up with Scripture, and reformed according to Scripture. You can reform your view of something basing it on honest evaluation of Scripture read in context and as the writer meant it to be understood at the time, without going down ‘the slippery slope’. I don’t encourage divorce and have been married myself for almost 40 years, but know Christian people can divorce without sliding into heresy.
Everything starts with "not being more wrighteous than Jesus ". As my old pastor used to say: "people go to chemist and buy medicines and get heal or buy poison and get killed, same applies to the bible ". Depends how we read or twist what we read. I will say sometimes we try to be more loving than Jesus (we think we are more loving).
I’m just saying to stick with what the Bible actually teaches contextually and with proper interpretative methods- and steer away from what evangelical culture can construe is the Bible but may not actually be. The church has in many ways become a law unto itself. It can be surprising how far we can get while still thinking we are biblical. Just need to be humbly always checking our views to see if it’s what Jesus actually taught.
Good to have a polite/Christian type discussion. Can you give the verses from the new testament (said by the Lord Jesus and the apostles) on this subject so that I can meditate on them?
Matt 19:1-12. Jesus talking about men divorcing their wives- not wives divorcing husbands which isn’t mentioned here. Maybe looking in different translations and some commentaries may shed extra insight. Clearly it is not God’s initial Desire or design, but is permitted. This probably isn’t the best place to keep discussing, but thanks for the challenge and chat.
James, How do you think this will all end?
It never ends.
Winston Churchill was once asked, "What's your life like?"
He replied: "It's one damn thing after another!" :)
Wow, that was spot on! I have sent it to my Pastor to read. Same vocabulary, different dictionary. Look what happened when man built the Tower of Babel!
Yep... like the frog in the slowly heating pot, you know whatever we are being desensitised to now will become accepted and celebrated in the not too distant future. Think same sex marriage, more liberal abortion reforms and children being told the lie that they can decide their gender from pre school age. They all began with the idea of tolerance and acceptance until it's 'join with us and celebrate or be excommunicated from society'. I believe we are very close to having the holy grail for sexual deviants being added to the alphabet soup of 'diversity'... the letter 'P'. No prizes for guessing what that stands for. It's the children they've been targeting all along. All in the name of inclusion and tolerance of course.
As for the abomination of a 'church' service in your article and the heretic running it... let's be honest, none of it is any more Christian than grime under the rim of your average toilet bowl.
But it IS scriptural for sure - or at least a confirmation of scripture. The great falling away from truth... 'For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears' (2 Tim 4:3)... but who knew they'd be itching their ears with feather boas?
'Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.' (Matt 7:13)... that wide path sounds a lot like inclusion to me. There's room for all on the wide road with no need to change or be transformed or, dare I say, be born again.
Love my daily dose of Jame Macpherson... a voice of sanity in a world where that is fast becoming a rarity. Stay the course.
Very well said. Probably divorce and remarriage was a starting point
I love your use of words James far more then the woke usage of them. You warning is very timely James. While not as fringe as this bloke it has already started its normalisation in Australian churches.
Great writing James. You have 'a way with words' mate. Good stuff!
100% agree with your take on this James.
The gospel message is not about inclusion. It’s much more radical than that! It’s about transformation.