I feel a new Australia coming on. The trend is following me from South Africa, where there are currently 11 official languages - I am not counting the 12th as is it officially a “sign language”. An additional 11 languages “are to be promoted and developed”.
Nothing is as unifying as a national language - no wonder the woke detest that concept. Even God said “ Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.” (Genesis 11:6) prior to confusing their languages back in the day…where confusion reigns, nothing will be achievable.
Quite simple for the coloniserphobes. However English is spoken by the whole world. Europeans like to speak it now in order to show off to tourists. I had no trouble in China or Tibet finding people who spoke English. Funnily enough they teach it at school which seems strange to Downunder Teacher Unions these days who prefer to teach subjects like being kind, what sex you might be, and that the world is full of dreadful white people who brought the wheel, etc to native folk who otherwise would have progressed into the 21st century all by themselves whilst eating each other. These journos are merely reporters of rubbish they learned at school. This pidgin language nonsense doesn't help the present day native people one iota in fact it sets them back as the rest of the world looks divisively and derisively upon them when it's not their fault that we can't understand their language that these ignorant pansies try to foist upon us. However the top native people are getting immensely well paid through all this but in your case that money is not seen around Alice or Katherine. This is the theory of the trickle down effect defined as the rich pissing on the poor. Tell your journos to start being journos and hunt out scoops on this sort of thing (oh dear it's called accountability-that's English tell them) and stop being repeaters of turgid leftist crap.
It'll be "Fraser Island" and "Dingo" for me always. But will Bribie Is. Moreton Is. and the two Stradbroke Islands be the next victims on the Abo language wokers' shooting gallery? The Queensland Premier has suggested to rename Brisbane as "M...blah blah something". What is really going on in Australia?? Has some kind of toxic miasma descended on us all???
There are 250 aboriginal nations, and in them we also have different clans that vary from 5 to 50 people. Each nation has their own language and some have several languages so they can communicate with nearby tribes.
It works like this, when you meet another nation that we don't understand, we point to the dingo and tell them what we call it and they tell us what they call it and so on for all the other things.
You can't use our languages for the whole of Australia because they only work in small areas. It is part of our defenses against intruders. It was never meant to be understood by everyone.
We all have some English apart from some mobs in the outback that don't come into contact with English speakers.
I see the airlines are putting aboriginal names on destinations. What could go wrong?
A friend had his son killed by a dingo, but they believed him because he wasn't a member of some religious cult like the SDAs that they said was guilty of sacrificing her baby.
I really hope that poor woman who was attacked, get justice, And compensation from whichever tribe is letting these dingoes attack especially considering of if the said dingos was already tagged and marked as dangerous!
I suppose wanker(read channel 9 journalists) is the same in all of the 300+ aboriginal dialects supposedly spoken in Australia. If so, its probably the only word common to all those dialects.
In Papua New Guinea there are something like 600 languages, we were on a island that had 3 different words for water and the island was a fraction the size of Fraser. So perhaps, so we all can understand each other, we should speak in pidgin English!
Yes James, great point. It seems the average Chinese punter has a better grip on English than those woke journos. Another thing what annoys me is that those aboriginal activists who constantly moan about what they have 'lost' ( I'm not talking about the majority, well adapted, aboriginals) never mention the great advantages of western civilisation, like medical care, education, supermarkets, housing, transportation and electricity, (though the latter becomes less reliable under Chris Bowen) they enjoy on a daily basis. I'm sure they would not like to live like their ancestors did some 250 years ago, running around naked, living in caves, spearing a wallaby for lunch, fighting with other clans, etc. Most civilisations enjoy the mod cons!
Yes, for we colonialists, we can’t win. Damned if we do, dammed if we don’t. If we allow the previous occupiers of Australia to live traditionally, on former reserves where they are self managed, the consequences usually being short life spans, high infant mortality and results of poor nutrition, are then blamed on the white governments for neglect. Yet is we intervene to improve living standards, we are called out as being paternalistic.
We should have a contract where Australian land should be valued at 1788 values and this sum should be put in trust for them to distribute as they see fit. But prior to that, subtract all the money spent exclusively on “first” proples projects-seems fair to me,
We are expected to accept the title “First Nations People” when clearly they were never a nation with one common language as the different and varied names for dingo across Australia show, and that is one small example.
Even the tribes from North Stradbroke Island and nearby South Stradbroke Island couldn’t converse because of different dialects and had to have nominated translators from each tribe.
Our common language is English and it would be easier if less than 4% of Australians used that instead of the rest of us having to learn some 300 dialects of the Aboriginal language.
Is there really only 300 languages ? from 700 odd tribal groups?. Edward Curr who settled as the 1st settler on the Goulburn River in Victoria near Echuca in 1838 studied Aboriginal languages and said some dialects /languages were spoken by some tribes that only numbered 50 people, in total, men women and their children. We are now being told these 50 people made up a nation.
Lots of places never had an Abo name, eg a town did not exist so it never had an Aboriginal name.
There is a reason that English is the international language-so that people from different locations, peoples and countries can talk to each other!
The vast majority of the worlds 8,000 odd languages were never written down until Christian missionaries learnt to speak and understand a language, invent an alphabet, invented a written vocabulary, translated something, (often part of the bible)into that language and then taught locals who speak that language how to read it. In India for example there were only 3 written languages when the British arrived, Sanskrit (the sacred Hindo language priests only taught their sons) Persian (the language of the rulers from Persia/ Iran) and Arabic( sacred language of the Moslem invaders).
Christian organisations today such as Wycliffe are still working hard to learn, invent, translate and teach unwritten languages so people can read Gods word for themselves in their "heart" language.
3 Baptist missionaries led by William Carey went to Serampoor never modern Calcutta in the late 1790s and invented/translated 39 unwritten Indian languages, including; Hindi ( the nation language of India), Bengali (280 million speakers in Calcutta state and in Bangladesh) and Urdo ( nation language of Pakistan).
Forcing Australians to learn 700 Aboriginal languages when we already speak the worlds international language is nothing but insanity.
As an accommodation provider in Hervey Bay, I not only get to look out across the ocean at K’gari every day, but I was also privileged to join an online information session, at the time the change happened, with the government officials who’d managed the name change process. They were very clear with us that the name of the island should be - for some time - known as ‘K’gari (formerly Fraser Island)’. It was there contention that since millions of people, from right around the globe, had visited the island, it was only fair to give people context until the name change beds in. Comparisons were made with Uluṟu, which took several decades to be commonly used. I suspect they intended the naming protocol to last for a lot longer than a mere month or two, maybe these journalist should have attended too.
There's been so much deliberation about what to do about the guilty dingo. Cull them, oh no! But want to abort your child. In the blink of an eye, yep, go for it.!
I feel a new Australia coming on. The trend is following me from South Africa, where there are currently 11 official languages - I am not counting the 12th as is it officially a “sign language”. An additional 11 languages “are to be promoted and developed”.
Nothing is as unifying as a national language - no wonder the woke detest that concept. Even God said “ Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.” (Genesis 11:6) prior to confusing their languages back in the day…where confusion reigns, nothing will be achievable.
Quite simple for the coloniserphobes. However English is spoken by the whole world. Europeans like to speak it now in order to show off to tourists. I had no trouble in China or Tibet finding people who spoke English. Funnily enough they teach it at school which seems strange to Downunder Teacher Unions these days who prefer to teach subjects like being kind, what sex you might be, and that the world is full of dreadful white people who brought the wheel, etc to native folk who otherwise would have progressed into the 21st century all by themselves whilst eating each other. These journos are merely reporters of rubbish they learned at school. This pidgin language nonsense doesn't help the present day native people one iota in fact it sets them back as the rest of the world looks divisively and derisively upon them when it's not their fault that we can't understand their language that these ignorant pansies try to foist upon us. However the top native people are getting immensely well paid through all this but in your case that money is not seen around Alice or Katherine. This is the theory of the trickle down effect defined as the rich pissing on the poor. Tell your journos to start being journos and hunt out scoops on this sort of thing (oh dear it's called accountability-that's English tell them) and stop being repeaters of turgid leftist crap.
Brilliant..Hahahaha
It'll be "Fraser Island" and "Dingo" for me always. But will Bribie Is. Moreton Is. and the two Stradbroke Islands be the next victims on the Abo language wokers' shooting gallery? The Queensland Premier has suggested to rename Brisbane as "M...blah blah something". What is really going on in Australia?? Has some kind of toxic miasma descended on us all???
"What is really going on in Australia?? Has some kind of toxic miasma descended on us all???" I know what you mean - You've seriously got to wonder??
There are 250 aboriginal nations, and in them we also have different clans that vary from 5 to 50 people. Each nation has their own language and some have several languages so they can communicate with nearby tribes.
It works like this, when you meet another nation that we don't understand, we point to the dingo and tell them what we call it and they tell us what they call it and so on for all the other things.
You can't use our languages for the whole of Australia because they only work in small areas. It is part of our defenses against intruders. It was never meant to be understood by everyone.
We all have some English apart from some mobs in the outback that don't come into contact with English speakers.
I see the airlines are putting aboriginal names on destinations. What could go wrong?
A friend had his son killed by a dingo, but they believed him because he wasn't a member of some religious cult like the SDAs that they said was guilty of sacrificing her baby.
I really hope that poor woman who was attacked, get justice, And compensation from whichever tribe is letting these dingoes attack especially considering of if the said dingos was already tagged and marked as dangerous!
No, in woke-inflicted Australia, the tribes have all the rights and the white people have all the responsibilities. Period.
I suppose wanker(read channel 9 journalists) is the same in all of the 300+ aboriginal dialects supposedly spoken in Australia. If so, its probably the only word common to all those dialects.
What has Ernie Wongari got to say about this, Malcolm K'gari would be rolling in his grave, enough I say?
In Papua New Guinea there are something like 600 languages, we were on a island that had 3 different words for water and the island was a fraction the size of Fraser. So perhaps, so we all can understand each other, we should speak in pidgin English!
Yes James, great point. It seems the average Chinese punter has a better grip on English than those woke journos. Another thing what annoys me is that those aboriginal activists who constantly moan about what they have 'lost' ( I'm not talking about the majority, well adapted, aboriginals) never mention the great advantages of western civilisation, like medical care, education, supermarkets, housing, transportation and electricity, (though the latter becomes less reliable under Chris Bowen) they enjoy on a daily basis. I'm sure they would not like to live like their ancestors did some 250 years ago, running around naked, living in caves, spearing a wallaby for lunch, fighting with other clans, etc. Most civilisations enjoy the mod cons!
Yes, for we colonialists, we can’t win. Damned if we do, dammed if we don’t. If we allow the previous occupiers of Australia to live traditionally, on former reserves where they are self managed, the consequences usually being short life spans, high infant mortality and results of poor nutrition, are then blamed on the white governments for neglect. Yet is we intervene to improve living standards, we are called out as being paternalistic.
We should have a contract where Australian land should be valued at 1788 values and this sum should be put in trust for them to distribute as they see fit. But prior to that, subtract all the money spent exclusively on “first” proples projects-seems fair to me,
Is it my imagination but, have dingo attacks increased since the island changed names?
It's almost like dingos don't like it.
So why just use select words? Why isn’t the whole article written in indigenous dialect?
It takes a special kind of idiot to divide us into smaller and smaller people groups. But we seemed to ruled by them.
Not idiots. Egocentric politicians who found a way to manipulate the public for their own benefit.
They are just following their bible, "Rules for radicals"
More like they're following their father - the devil.
Still idiots if they think we cannot see what they are doing.
We are expected to accept the title “First Nations People” when clearly they were never a nation with one common language as the different and varied names for dingo across Australia show, and that is one small example.
Even the tribes from North Stradbroke Island and nearby South Stradbroke Island couldn’t converse because of different dialects and had to have nominated translators from each tribe.
Our common language is English and it would be easier if less than 4% of Australians used that instead of the rest of us having to learn some 300 dialects of the Aboriginal language.
Is there really only 300 languages ? from 700 odd tribal groups?. Edward Curr who settled as the 1st settler on the Goulburn River in Victoria near Echuca in 1838 studied Aboriginal languages and said some dialects /languages were spoken by some tribes that only numbered 50 people, in total, men women and their children. We are now being told these 50 people made up a nation.
Lots of places never had an Abo name, eg a town did not exist so it never had an Aboriginal name.
There is a reason that English is the international language-so that people from different locations, peoples and countries can talk to each other!
The vast majority of the worlds 8,000 odd languages were never written down until Christian missionaries learnt to speak and understand a language, invent an alphabet, invented a written vocabulary, translated something, (often part of the bible)into that language and then taught locals who speak that language how to read it. In India for example there were only 3 written languages when the British arrived, Sanskrit (the sacred Hindo language priests only taught their sons) Persian (the language of the rulers from Persia/ Iran) and Arabic( sacred language of the Moslem invaders).
Christian organisations today such as Wycliffe are still working hard to learn, invent, translate and teach unwritten languages so people can read Gods word for themselves in their "heart" language.
3 Baptist missionaries led by William Carey went to Serampoor never modern Calcutta in the late 1790s and invented/translated 39 unwritten Indian languages, including; Hindi ( the nation language of India), Bengali (280 million speakers in Calcutta state and in Bangladesh) and Urdo ( nation language of Pakistan).
Forcing Australians to learn 700 Aboriginal languages when we already speak the worlds international language is nothing but insanity.
As an accommodation provider in Hervey Bay, I not only get to look out across the ocean at K’gari every day, but I was also privileged to join an online information session, at the time the change happened, with the government officials who’d managed the name change process. They were very clear with us that the name of the island should be - for some time - known as ‘K’gari (formerly Fraser Island)’. It was there contention that since millions of people, from right around the globe, had visited the island, it was only fair to give people context until the name change beds in. Comparisons were made with Uluṟu, which took several decades to be commonly used. I suspect they intended the naming protocol to last for a lot longer than a mere month or two, maybe these journalist should have attended too.
Having been to Alice Springs and the Rock the locals I met still refer to it as Ayer’s Rock
Still Ayres rock and Fraser Island to me.
Me too
There's been so much deliberation about what to do about the guilty dingo. Cull them, oh no! But want to abort your child. In the blink of an eye, yep, go for it.!
Yeah, there is that.