Let’s face it Muslims are a protected species. They can get away with anything. I wonder if the stabbing of the bishop had not been beamed all over the world if the authorities would have been so quick to call it a terrorist attack. That description allowed the moronic head of the AFP, the silly bloke that rubs ASIO and Inman Grant to go after X and Elon Musk. I imagine that it would have called a line wolf attack if we all hadn’t heard the insane ravings from the boy that stabbed the Bishop then there would be a ‘nothing to see here’.
And as unfortunate as it was ,that young security guard losing his life on his first day at work would our"esteemed and beloved" pm bothered to attend his funeral if he was a white Aussie of Anglo descent ? A big fat NO is my honest opinion (maybe a football or tennis match would be more important)
Here’s an idea - the Muslim Council, like the AFL, should order jihadi junior to do 3 months of Christian/Bible lessons with the good Bishop as his penance ( and to display their inclusivity and diversity!)
( Like the Port Adelaide player is subjected to 3 months of LGB+~ for making a rude remark).
Learning about love and forgiveness instead of hatred and violence might do this kid some good.
If that riot was to occur in Victoria, and it was suspected that none of the rioters were C-19 Vaxxed, the police would turn up and shoot them all with high velocity, rubber projectiles.
Amazing what our government will and won't fight for...they are supposed to be voted in to be our representatives in Parliament. It's been a long time since I have felt like my voice is represented in Parliament, yet these representatives are paid significant amounts of our money to "represent us".
Being a representative seems to be similar to being a weather person...you can be terrible at what you do and just keep doing it.
Maybe it's time I ventured into the BOM or Canberra and made myself available? I can be crap and still want to be paid!!
I would be interested to know what a sermon on the iniquity of Islamophobia would look like if a performance by an Islamic jihadist, of Stabby Stabby, was to be delivered during business hours within the walls of say, Parliament House or one of the main stream media buildings, whence such sermons are preached!
I am a great admirer of the Salvos 'Religion with their sleeves rolled up "I heard them described once . When I was a very young man I was junior member of a two man team carrying out emergency work in the big winter floods North west of Sydney . It was pouring rain and bitterly cold when flood water stopped us reaching the sub-station we had to go to . The army were there in their Dukw (ducks amphibious vehicle to get us there ). About a hour to wait our turn and this Sally army chaplain pointed us in the direction of their comforts fund tent for a hot mug of tea. We more than gratefully accepted ,any excuse to get out of the rain for a few minutes The Sally captain wandered in said tea warm enough boys ? we both agreed ,he said have a drop of this and pulled a bottle of OP Bundy rum out of his greatcoat pocket winked and poured a sizable dollop of same into our tea That will warm you up boys and it did too . The only refreshments we got in the 36 hours that we were there was by the Salvos and there were probably a hundred or more people involved.
I have been thinking (and discussing with friends) a lot lately about the actual terms Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.
And how it came to be that one was ‘Anti’, but the other wasn’t Anti-Islamism !
Cos people hate Jews, but they aren’t typically scared (phobic) of them.
But for the most part people don’t hate Muslims simply for the fact they’re Muslim but plenty are scared of/by them (especially the government and police) it would seem.
Food for thought. Strictly kosher and halal of course !
In the US the Rabbis run a fraud. They charge lots of food companies a fee to inspect their food preparation and then declare it kosher so jews are allowed to buy the food. But even pork is inspected and given the kosher clearance.
The fee the Rabbis charge has to be passed on as a cost of the food company so ALL the American Public fattens the Rabbis pockets.
What is the agenda behind our Labour Government ? What has happened to our police force ? They are afraid to tackle the rioters, are they cowards or under orders ? In this latest atrocity by a Muslim attacker, where did all these rioters appear from, who attacked the police and destroyed police cars in a wild melee of violence ? The government wishes to appease these terrorists, which will lead to more of the same, all in the name of appeasing Muslim voters. This an Australia descending into racial and religious disaster .
Yeah, while sitting in the comfort of their air-conditioned offices, politicians and bureaucrats are good at making up absurd rules here and there, turning a blind eye to reality and telling everyone on the frontline what to do, while doing nothing themselves, to actually serve and help the hard-working, everyday Aussie. This is happening every day and I'm so sick of it!!!
It’s getting tiresome, this whole omg don’t criticise the Muslims for the terror their jihadists reign down on our communities!! How dare we! & if we do we again risk being attacked for our…stating the facts?!
It’s time we started calling things out for what they are & thereby putting pressure on the non-jihadist Muslims to stand up against their radical Islamist brothers & tell them “not acceptable, not in our name!”. They’ve had lots of opportunities (especially of late) to do so but all I hear is the deafening silence.
No moslem will stand against the Korans teaching. All the wealth, land and all the women and children in the world belong to moslem men. Convert or die.
I want to know where are the Australian Muslims condemning this latest attack....you can hear the pin drop!! Nothing...Nada!! Where is the law enforcement stopping the "hate speech" by the jihadist Imam's? Where's the condemnation of Syrian Girl/Partisan Girl who falsely named Ben Cohen as the Bondi Junction attacker? All I hear is a lot of chatter chatter chatter from this Damn Federal Labor Government telling Israel to back off....How Dare They!! This Labor Government (I use that term very loosely) want us to just forget about October 7, 2023....and never mind about the survivors of that outrageous attack, 50 of whom have committed suicide.
If any palestinian flag or chants happen around Anzac Day I hope they hear LOUD and CLEAR the wrath of AUSTRALIANS and yes feel the harsh sting of Islamophobia.
If there were any group so demanding a serious backlash these are it then wait for the squeals of horror when the boot is firmly on the other foot. And stuffing around with Anzac day would be a good idea to avoid, As the Diggers kicked a lot of islamic arse in 1914-1918 and the rest of us have not forgotten.
I don’t assume the worst of all Muslims because there are many of the religion who not radical, including personal Malaysian friends. I dare say that there also are many in the communities in Australia who want no part of violent dictates of the Koran and just want to live in peace.
Chris Minns the NSW Premier had the right idea yesterday following the latest incident, by gathering the religious leaders of many and various religions to try to come to a consensus of calm.
I hope he, and many more leaders continue with the idea, with invites to those Imans who are known to preach radical ideas to their respective communities. Perhaps debate with other religious leaders may get them to realise radicalisation is not acceptable in Australia. Then if they continue, it will be appropriate to take action against them including deportation where possible, or jail sentences.
Of course, we need leaders with enough guts to tackle this problem head on.
There is a small mosque in Mareeba and another one in Cairns, but the local Muslims lead quiet lives and are never in the news. They are the descendants of Afghan camel drivers brought over here in the 1800s.
Most people in this world are nice Jim....however the Jewish people in Australia need some major open support and they're not getting it. i'm afraid standing up and standing out is the only way to get the attention of our leaders.
The palestinians didn't seem to have any trouble doing that on the Opera House steps on Oct 8....so where are the "nice" people in their community stopping it. We, after all live in Australia
By the way I noticed all the religious leaders gathered together by Chris Minns all did their share of tokenism and nodded agreement.
I have a friend who was a petroleum engineer ( retired now) who is a very orthodox Jew, and for several years was stationed in Kuala Lumpur. He always said that the people could not have been any nicer. All his religious needs were catered to without exception and there was never any issue about religion
Seriously though. There has been little, if none at all of the Islamic community calling out the hate parades that have been occurring since Oct 7.
You have rightly pointed out that there aren't too many other religious groups bombing, shooting, stabbing or raping in such large proportions at the "religion of peace". How do they think people are supposed to respond. It seems to me the word anything-phobia gets tossed around way too much whenever some attention seeker wants to cry "I am a victim".
so true Janelle, I'm sure somebody will counter your argument sighting the Christian crusades of the medieval times (sometimes directed by the Christian Latin Church intended to reconquer Jerusalem and its surrounding area from Muslim rule after it had been taken by force centuries earlier), and how many millions of people were slaughtered (European, Jews and Muslims) in the name of Christianity back then as a comparison.
But indeed in modern times, none so much as the Muslims are acting out with such terrorism or brutality - we have all moved past that and desire peace, yet they hunger for more war until they get what they want.
I had this complaint that the Christian Crusaders attacked moslems made to me when I visited a madrassa in Bangladesh, by a young Bangladeshi moslem teacher with a Scotish name.
The moslems invaded many countries and murdered approx 20 million peaceful people, many of them Christians, from the time of Mohamed to the beginning of the first crusade 400 years later. Only after 20 million were murdered and vast numbers were sold into slavery for refusing to convert to Islam did the Christian nations of Europe respond and take action Finally the Pope called the 1st crusade so that Christians would be able to visit the holy sites in Jerusalem.
The Azeris with the help of the Turkeys are still targeting Armenians. They drove the Armenians out of Nagorno Karabakh, destroyed churches and grave yards. Now the poor souls are sheltering with distant relatives and in churches in Armenia.
Right on Bella. The massacre of Jews in the 1920's in the Arab lands goes unnoticed, as is the terrible slaughter in the African Continent, all perpetrated by the Religion of Peace. (Maybe it is really the religion of pieces... Nigeria, Sudan, Israel. Get the picture.)
Muslim militia thugs from Northern Sudan caused horrific slaughters and devastation among the Southern Sudan Christian populations in very recent times.
The massacres of Christians across the Turkish moslem empire today are never mentioned.
Before WW1 Christians made up about 33 % of the population of the Turkish Empire. Many were orthodox Greeks, others Armenians, with other smaller Christian groups. Many were murdered by govt order. Today the % of Christians is way below 10%.
Over a million Armenian Christians were killed in various ways. Many were driven into the deserts and left to die there by the Turks. The Armenian holocaust is vehemently denied by the Turkish government to this day.
I remember reading a book about 30 years ago called "Guests of the Unspeakable". An autobiography by a Capt White. He was an Aust aeroplane pilot flying as a spotter for the British Army
during WW1 as they advanced up the Tigris River in what is now Iraq.
Eventually he was captured by the Turks and forced to walk about 1,500 miles all across Turkey to Istanbul. As an officer he was slightly better fed, but most of the POWs died of exhaustion, starvation or disease on the way (think Japanese treatment of Aust POWs).
He mentions entering towns and seeing all the fresh graves of all the Armenian men who had been murdered and seeing the starving Armenian women and children. He commented on the many Armenian women and children on the roads being walked to death.
I remember reading in a Bible commentary that the Turks are also descendants of Esau, Jacob's twin brother. He was wild and ferocious, just like Ishmael, Hagar's son. These two must have passed their negative character qualities to most, perhaps all of their posterity: religious fanaticism and cruelty.
North Africa and much of the Middle East was Christian once. The bloody Islamic tide had even reached the gates of Vienna when at last the tide was turned by a desperate counter attack by the Christians.
In 732 AD the Moslem army had swept into France but was stopped by Charles Martel at Tours. The Moslems had kept southern Spain for centuries with Cordoba as their capital. As late as the 17th century the Turks, led by the savage Soleiman II, had reached the gates of Vienna. John Sobieski, king of Poland, commanded the Christian army and beat the Moslems. There are still parts of Balkan countries that have large Moslem populations. If it wasn't for Martel and later, Sobieski, Europe would have become Islamic. But now, the Moslems are infiltrating Europe 'en masse' as refugees with dire consequences for the European populations.
So true, James. Christians turn the other cheek. I am glad the Bishop didn’t get time to take it on the other cheek. What a gracious man. One lot are taught to hate anyone different from themselves and the other are taught to love their enemies. We have brought these people into Australia and now we suffer the consequences. I must admit I did have arachnophobia though
So true, I have never been to a combine church service and worried that I might be attacked with a knife by the 70 year old Presbyterian Pastor, or that the wife of the Baptist minister might try to blow me up while sharing a devotional. The worst that might happen is that there was not enough Tim Tams to go around., now that could cause a problem.
Let’s face it Muslims are a protected species. They can get away with anything. I wonder if the stabbing of the bishop had not been beamed all over the world if the authorities would have been so quick to call it a terrorist attack. That description allowed the moronic head of the AFP, the silly bloke that rubs ASIO and Inman Grant to go after X and Elon Musk. I imagine that it would have called a line wolf attack if we all hadn’t heard the insane ravings from the boy that stabbed the Bishop then there would be a ‘nothing to see here’.
And as unfortunate as it was ,that young security guard losing his life on his first day at work would our"esteemed and beloved" pm bothered to attend his funeral if he was a white Aussie of Anglo descent ? A big fat NO is my honest opinion (maybe a football or tennis match would be more important)
Here’s an idea - the Muslim Council, like the AFL, should order jihadi junior to do 3 months of Christian/Bible lessons with the good Bishop as his penance ( and to display their inclusivity and diversity!)
( Like the Port Adelaide player is subjected to 3 months of LGB+~ for making a rude remark).
Learning about love and forgiveness instead of hatred and violence might do this kid some good.
If that riot was to occur in Victoria, and it was suspected that none of the rioters were C-19 Vaxxed, the police would turn up and shoot them all with high velocity, rubber projectiles.
Amazing what our government will and won't fight for...they are supposed to be voted in to be our representatives in Parliament. It's been a long time since I have felt like my voice is represented in Parliament, yet these representatives are paid significant amounts of our money to "represent us".
Being a representative seems to be similar to being a weather person...you can be terrible at what you do and just keep doing it.
Maybe it's time I ventured into the BOM or Canberra and made myself available? I can be crap and still want to be paid!!
I would be interested to know what a sermon on the iniquity of Islamophobia would look like if a performance by an Islamic jihadist, of Stabby Stabby, was to be delivered during business hours within the walls of say, Parliament House or one of the main stream media buildings, whence such sermons are preached!
Definitely the latter!
"Salvos don't go all stabby stabby ....." tears of laughter rolling down my face 😂lol
I am a great admirer of the Salvos 'Religion with their sleeves rolled up "I heard them described once . When I was a very young man I was junior member of a two man team carrying out emergency work in the big winter floods North west of Sydney . It was pouring rain and bitterly cold when flood water stopped us reaching the sub-station we had to go to . The army were there in their Dukw (ducks amphibious vehicle to get us there ). About a hour to wait our turn and this Sally army chaplain pointed us in the direction of their comforts fund tent for a hot mug of tea. We more than gratefully accepted ,any excuse to get out of the rain for a few minutes The Sally captain wandered in said tea warm enough boys ? we both agreed ,he said have a drop of this and pulled a bottle of OP Bundy rum out of his greatcoat pocket winked and poured a sizable dollop of same into our tea That will warm you up boys and it did too . The only refreshments we got in the 36 hours that we were there was by the Salvos and there were probably a hundred or more people involved.
Laughing here too Ruth 🤣
James has such a way with words. 🤣
I have been thinking (and discussing with friends) a lot lately about the actual terms Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.
And how it came to be that one was ‘Anti’, but the other wasn’t Anti-Islamism !
Cos people hate Jews, but they aren’t typically scared (phobic) of them.
But for the most part people don’t hate Muslims simply for the fact they’re Muslim but plenty are scared of/by them (especially the government and police) it would seem.
Food for thought. Strictly kosher and halal of course !
I do not like moslems generally but I sure as hell aint scared of them.
In the US the Rabbis run a fraud. They charge lots of food companies a fee to inspect their food preparation and then declare it kosher so jews are allowed to buy the food. But even pork is inspected and given the kosher clearance.
The fee the Rabbis charge has to be passed on as a cost of the food company so ALL the American Public fattens the Rabbis pockets.
Not exactly !
What is the agenda behind our Labour Government ? What has happened to our police force ? They are afraid to tackle the rioters, are they cowards or under orders ? In this latest atrocity by a Muslim attacker, where did all these rioters appear from, who attacked the police and destroyed police cars in a wild melee of violence ? The government wishes to appease these terrorists, which will lead to more of the same, all in the name of appeasing Muslim voters. This an Australia descending into racial and religious disaster .
They are phobic of Islam … as per my comment above - hence Islamophobia rather than Anti-Islamism !!
If the Government and police force etc. are not afraid of them, why don't they stand up to them?! And they call us Islamophobic??? What hypocrites!!!
Gutless politicians dictating to senior police on what to do .
Yeah, while sitting in the comfort of their air-conditioned offices, politicians and bureaucrats are good at making up absurd rules here and there, turning a blind eye to reality and telling everyone on the frontline what to do, while doing nothing themselves, to actually serve and help the hard-working, everyday Aussie. This is happening every day and I'm so sick of it!!!
Another great call-out James!!
It’s getting tiresome, this whole omg don’t criticise the Muslims for the terror their jihadists reign down on our communities!! How dare we! & if we do we again risk being attacked for our…stating the facts?!
It’s time we started calling things out for what they are & thereby putting pressure on the non-jihadist Muslims to stand up against their radical Islamist brothers & tell them “not acceptable, not in our name!”. They’ve had lots of opportunities (especially of late) to do so but all I hear is the deafening silence.
Can’t have it both ways…
No moslem will stand against the Korans teaching. All the wealth, land and all the women and children in the world belong to moslem men. Convert or die.
Amen to that Peg - I totally agree!👍
I want to know where are the Australian Muslims condemning this latest attack....you can hear the pin drop!! Nothing...Nada!! Where is the law enforcement stopping the "hate speech" by the jihadist Imam's? Where's the condemnation of Syrian Girl/Partisan Girl who falsely named Ben Cohen as the Bondi Junction attacker? All I hear is a lot of chatter chatter chatter from this Damn Federal Labor Government telling Israel to back off....How Dare They!! This Labor Government (I use that term very loosely) want us to just forget about October 7, 2023....and never mind about the survivors of that outrageous attack, 50 of whom have committed suicide.
If any palestinian flag or chants happen around Anzac Day I hope they hear LOUD and CLEAR the wrath of AUSTRALIANS and yes feel the harsh sting of Islamophobia.
Sky did interview an Oman or two but they were just mealy mouthed in their apology and frankly I thought it was a lie.
Imam not Oman
If there were any group so demanding a serious backlash these are it then wait for the squeals of horror when the boot is firmly on the other foot. And stuffing around with Anzac day would be a good idea to avoid, As the Diggers kicked a lot of islamic arse in 1914-1918 and the rest of us have not forgotten.
I don’t assume the worst of all Muslims because there are many of the religion who not radical, including personal Malaysian friends. I dare say that there also are many in the communities in Australia who want no part of violent dictates of the Koran and just want to live in peace.
Chris Minns the NSW Premier had the right idea yesterday following the latest incident, by gathering the religious leaders of many and various religions to try to come to a consensus of calm.
I hope he, and many more leaders continue with the idea, with invites to those Imans who are known to preach radical ideas to their respective communities. Perhaps debate with other religious leaders may get them to realise radicalisation is not acceptable in Australia. Then if they continue, it will be appropriate to take action against them including deportation where possible, or jail sentences.
Of course, we need leaders with enough guts to tackle this problem head on.
There is a small mosque in Mareeba and another one in Cairns, but the local Muslims lead quiet lives and are never in the news. They are the descendants of Afghan camel drivers brought over here in the 1800s.
Most people in this world are nice Jim....however the Jewish people in Australia need some major open support and they're not getting it. i'm afraid standing up and standing out is the only way to get the attention of our leaders.
The palestinians didn't seem to have any trouble doing that on the Opera House steps on Oct 8....so where are the "nice" people in their community stopping it. We, after all live in Australia
By the way I noticed all the religious leaders gathered together by Chris Minns all did their share of tokenism and nodded agreement.
I have a friend who was a petroleum engineer ( retired now) who is a very orthodox Jew, and for several years was stationed in Kuala Lumpur. He always said that the people could not have been any nicer. All his religious needs were catered to without exception and there was never any issue about religion
There’s a bad case of Jewophobia around, also of no concern to our ‘leaders’.
Well I am a Baptist and even I am scared of me.
Seriously though. There has been little, if none at all of the Islamic community calling out the hate parades that have been occurring since Oct 7.
You have rightly pointed out that there aren't too many other religious groups bombing, shooting, stabbing or raping in such large proportions at the "religion of peace". How do they think people are supposed to respond. It seems to me the word anything-phobia gets tossed around way too much whenever some attention seeker wants to cry "I am a victim".
so true Janelle, I'm sure somebody will counter your argument sighting the Christian crusades of the medieval times (sometimes directed by the Christian Latin Church intended to reconquer Jerusalem and its surrounding area from Muslim rule after it had been taken by force centuries earlier), and how many millions of people were slaughtered (European, Jews and Muslims) in the name of Christianity back then as a comparison.
But indeed in modern times, none so much as the Muslims are acting out with such terrorism or brutality - we have all moved past that and desire peace, yet they hunger for more war until they get what they want.
I had this complaint that the Christian Crusaders attacked moslems made to me when I visited a madrassa in Bangladesh, by a young Bangladeshi moslem teacher with a Scotish name.
The moslems invaded many countries and murdered approx 20 million peaceful people, many of them Christians, from the time of Mohamed to the beginning of the first crusade 400 years later. Only after 20 million were murdered and vast numbers were sold into slavery for refusing to convert to Islam did the Christian nations of Europe respond and take action Finally the Pope called the 1st crusade so that Christians would be able to visit the holy sites in Jerusalem.
The Azeris with the help of the Turkeys are still targeting Armenians. They drove the Armenians out of Nagorno Karabakh, destroyed churches and grave yards. Now the poor souls are sheltering with distant relatives and in churches in Armenia.
Right on Bella. The massacre of Jews in the 1920's in the Arab lands goes unnoticed, as is the terrible slaughter in the African Continent, all perpetrated by the Religion of Peace. (Maybe it is really the religion of pieces... Nigeria, Sudan, Israel. Get the picture.)
Muslim militia thugs from Northern Sudan caused horrific slaughters and devastation among the Southern Sudan Christian populations in very recent times.
The massacres of Christians across the Turkish moslem empire today are never mentioned.
Before WW1 Christians made up about 33 % of the population of the Turkish Empire. Many were orthodox Greeks, others Armenians, with other smaller Christian groups. Many were murdered by govt order. Today the % of Christians is way below 10%.
Over a million Armenian Christians were killed in various ways. Many were driven into the deserts and left to die there by the Turks. The Armenian holocaust is vehemently denied by the Turkish government to this day.
I remember reading a book about 30 years ago called "Guests of the Unspeakable". An autobiography by a Capt White. He was an Aust aeroplane pilot flying as a spotter for the British Army
during WW1 as they advanced up the Tigris River in what is now Iraq.
Eventually he was captured by the Turks and forced to walk about 1,500 miles all across Turkey to Istanbul. As an officer he was slightly better fed, but most of the POWs died of exhaustion, starvation or disease on the way (think Japanese treatment of Aust POWs).
He mentions entering towns and seeing all the fresh graves of all the Armenian men who had been murdered and seeing the starving Armenian women and children. He commented on the many Armenian women and children on the roads being walked to death.
I remember reading in a Bible commentary that the Turks are also descendants of Esau, Jacob's twin brother. He was wild and ferocious, just like Ishmael, Hagar's son. These two must have passed their negative character qualities to most, perhaps all of their posterity: religious fanaticism and cruelty.
North Africa and much of the Middle East was Christian once. The bloody Islamic tide had even reached the gates of Vienna when at last the tide was turned by a desperate counter attack by the Christians.
Almost reached our shores?
In 732 AD the Moslem army had swept into France but was stopped by Charles Martel at Tours. The Moslems had kept southern Spain for centuries with Cordoba as their capital. As late as the 17th century the Turks, led by the savage Soleiman II, had reached the gates of Vienna. John Sobieski, king of Poland, commanded the Christian army and beat the Moslems. There are still parts of Balkan countries that have large Moslem populations. If it wasn't for Martel and later, Sobieski, Europe would have become Islamic. But now, the Moslems are infiltrating Europe 'en masse' as refugees with dire consequences for the European populations.
So true, James. Christians turn the other cheek. I am glad the Bishop didn’t get time to take it on the other cheek. What a gracious man. One lot are taught to hate anyone different from themselves and the other are taught to love their enemies. We have brought these people into Australia and now we suffer the consequences. I must admit I did have arachnophobia though
So true, I have never been to a combine church service and worried that I might be attacked with a knife by the 70 year old Presbyterian Pastor, or that the wife of the Baptist minister might try to blow me up while sharing a devotional. The worst that might happen is that there was not enough Tim Tams to go around., now that could cause a problem.
That made me laugh! Love to you and Mary x