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Axel Hart's avatar

Try to imagine "soldiers" like this Corporal Klinger storming the beaches of Normandy on 6. June 1944. The Germans would have died laughing.

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Bob Johns's avatar

Couldnt agree more when the officer said that the military is there to kill people and break things --not a platform for a social experiment ---ok then what about troops that demand to be fed halal meals ? not in the ration pack ? then eat what you get or go hungry or pull out of the action ,go home and leave the rest of the troops shorthanded because of your religion or not be in the military to begin with ? I would think that the Aussie digger could do without problems like that .

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Bob Johns's avatar

Not that that would be a problem as I wouldnt expect many recruits from" those people anyway" Would be too hard if they had to fight in daylight without a mask over their faces

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John Coe's avatar

A concise and realistic appraisal.

In the Australian context, we need to abolish ADFA, clean out the upper echelons of Russel Offices, sever the nexus between universities and the defence establishment, encourage the recruitment of officers from the ranks and return the troops to a barracks culture.

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Bob Johns's avatar

Spot on a very capable young man I know whos dad served in the South African military for a lot of years came to Australia some years ago with his family and the two sons had no other ambition other to join the Australian army . The elder boy has just completed his post initial employment in 1RAR and knocked back the offer of admittance to ADFA because he felt that an officer needed to understand the infantry mindset before being given command of troops in the field . The interviewing officer agreed and told him two years Digger and it ADFA for you ready or not. There are tens of thousands of young blokes like him who would come to Australia in a heartbeat ---if they were allowed to come here.

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John Coe's avatar

Hopefully they might yet. I have always always thought the idea of an 'officer caste' was most inappropriate for Australia.

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Bob Johns's avatar

Yes like the Brits when the German high command declared that the British armies were an army of lions led by donkeys . Australia didnt have that caste structure and the two most successful generals on the allied side was Monash and Chauvelle Both Australian .

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Bob Johns's avatar

Yes just imagine a lot of white ,Christian ,English speaking recruits, who would not need halal rations and be loyal to their adopted country by enlisting to fight for it . Totally unheard of in the Russel Offices, No need to be DEI as the black South Africans have got their country back so let the whitey come here where they would be highly appreciated .

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Andrew lawson's avatar

You are wrong historically, as are most of us who have been taught that black Negro's are native to South Africa. This is totally wrong. The whites lived around Cape Town for about 250 years before the 1st Negro's started to arrive from far to the north.

In fact the traditional Boers, white Dutch/Huguenot ( french protestant refugees) farmers moving north to escape the invading new British govt in Cape Town were hundreds of miles north when they started to encounter blacks moving south to escape tribal wars and mass genocide.

Later black kings ordered their people in big numbers to move south to earn money working in the vast white developed gold and diamond mines.

The blacks took over a wealthy white country in the 1980s based on outnumbering the whites and Cape Coloureds, supported by communists in many western countries, NOT on being the natives.

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Bob Johns's avatar

I am well aware of that Andrew but being historically correct dont count just being out numbered when the commo supported western govts (including Australia )and the UN get their steam up . Like what is happening to Israel and will happen to Australia if we dont get our act together and put a stop to this immigration lunacy .

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John Coe's avatar

I agree completely. Our reluctance to accept them demonstrates both idiocy and discrimination.

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Judith Hughes's avatar

It's a bit of a crude way of dismissing the transgender service members..described as 'mentally ill'. Gender dysphoria is an awful condition/affliction. Having known someone from my uni days in the 70's who changed..female to male...and lived a happier and productive life until his death, and am currently aware of my girlfriend's eldest daughter who is now living more happily as male rather than female, I am sympathetic to their situation. I am however concerned by the apparant increased nos of transgender people in the services (who do require constant medication and psychological follow up) and the distraction this issue demands when the focus should be on fitness, resilience etc ..requirements of a focused and purpose driven national protective service.

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Paul C's avatar

I'm sure the Chinese were terrified that the US was going to hit them with their rhythm stick. So thankful they are resetting their resolve on being a force to be reckoned with...if only Australia would soon follow suit and restore reality to normality.

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Llanipsa's avatar

Was Corporal Klinger responsible for the introduction into the US Army of the new(then) Wokest ideas?

I loved M*A*S*H and always got a laugh over his actions. I served in a Field Hospital in Vietnam, (although we were never mobile like that bunch) but I could see certain members of my unit who would not look out of place.

Wonder how life treated him after the series? Was he a centre-fold in a Gay magazine?

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Margaret's avatar

It's taken this long for a leader to have the guts to stand up to selling out of all the forces- not just the army! Hopefully Trump will apply this to police, navy, airforce next!

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alan  taylor's avatar

At last someone who is not afraid of the media ,or the do gooders etc that man is Donald Trump just think if Australia had a Donald and Pauline Hanson what a pair they would be. These people who think they can change there genders i wonder how many of the 15,000 confused will all of sudden revert back to normality it is there choice they have made .As i have said before watch Kindergarten Cop that one sentence could not be any plainer!!! .As we all know homosexuals have always been around but they kept themselves behind closed doors not in our faces lets hope with Donald Trump help they will all go back behind closed doors and stay there. One more thing why should the hard working tax payer pay for all their medications ,operations and after care.

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Michael Howard's avatar

As an ex-serviceman I can only imagine the disdain that would be held for these precious transitioners in the forces… such a burden on their peers.

Great move by Trump.

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Llanipsa's avatar

I can see the serviceman fronting his commanding officer and giving the salutation,

"Yes Sir/madam/she/he/them/they/and whatever!"

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PezR's avatar

Make perfect sense to me. Trump getting America, & hopefully the western world, back on the right track. Take heed Peter Dutton!

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Bob White's avatar

Yes Peter Dutton - hear this with ‘listening ears’!!

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Dianne Bentley's avatar

Good on Donald Trump! When I was in the Air Force back in the 60's, I was befriended by a woman who was a lesbian. It shocked me! I was a 20 year old on my Service Police course. I was also extremely naive about these sort of things. I spoke to my boss and he told me the services are full of lesbians and homosexuals because that is where they can find someone, as they live in barracks all together. He gave me the strategy of how to get rid of this woman and it worked, she never spoke to me again. But if it was bad back then, what is it like today? Back then if a person was caught, they were dismissed from the service immediately and dishonorably.

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Axel Hart's avatar

In my younger years I was also "approached" by homosexual men who wanted to "fall in love" with me. Although I was able to rid myself of them, it left me with life-long psychological scars - just the memory of such events churns my stomach.

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John Coe's avatar

Absolutely correct. They were returned to their home state and out of the service within days. And so it should be.

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Julie Webber's avatar

Makes perfect sense.

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Kate H's avatar

Hallelujah! A last a major VICTORY has been won! Good onya James ...another "both-barrels-article!" Keep 'em comin!😂

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Dianne Bentley's avatar

Did you do that deliberately? Major Victory! I love it

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Llanipsa's avatar

Certainly better than the Major Catastrophe, and General Disorder of late.

Trump is back and has taken the role of Corporal Punishment seriously.

He like a brand new bash broom bristling with eagerness and about to sweep throughout all Military establishments.

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June Hensley's avatar

At last some commonsense! Who wants to be defended by someone so delicate and precious that they get distracted and offended by trying to ensure they’re addressed by their chosen pronouns?! It’s laughable and ludicrous! That some people hate their bodies so much they would do anything to change them is one thing but to expect everyone else to confirm and affirm their deluded choice is quite another. Men wearing skirts and makeup and under the influence of serious drugs and carrying their dosette box into battle does not give me confidence! Our military is seriously weakened by these mentally ill people and it is a laughing stock to our enemies. Good on the Don! I’m starting to feel like I just might be beginning to belong to a rational world. Hopefully. Maybe.

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Axel Hart's avatar

And if there is a break in the fire fight, these softies can fill in the time with painting their finger nails.

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June Hensley's avatar

Oh yes, you have to be utterly gobsmacked at how so called ‘rational’ people in this country could let things get so ridiculously out of hand. Absolute delusional thinking.

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Bob White's avatar

Hear, hear!!

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alan  taylor's avatar

Hi June you are absolutely right,

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June Hensley's avatar

My Like feature still doesn’t work but thank you both. These recent years I feel like we’ve been living in an asylum run by the mentally ill.

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Andrew lawson's avatar

This decision is also needed in the Aust military.

It raises the question why Aust taxpayers need to pay for our mentally ill to transition rather than treating the illness.

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Paul C's avatar

Anyone attempting to treat the illness faces a term of imprisonment in Victoria...is it any wonder treatment is uncommon? Acceptance is forced by law!

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Ruth's avatar

brilliant!

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