LOL, the bible has the complete history of genealogy back to Adam and that has been calculated by Bishop Ussher who wrote, "The annals of the world" (originally published in Latin in 1650, is an unparalleled academic chronology of both sacred and secular history) using a large library of history books as well as the bible to be 6,027 years ago on 23 October this year.
I am not going to speculate on how long demons were around before that as I don't consider them human beings. Down through the ages many people have been possessed by demons and they may have given them false memories or views from their own past.
Ancient history at universities always considered the bible as the work that other histories and discoveries were measured by as it has always been accurate with all the national historical documents that have been discovered. Since the Communists took over they have no standards, like to pull down statues and burn books. There are mythical stories in many cultures, but we can understand that they have either been possessed or smoking something too strong for their brains too.
I worked for Connellan Airways/Connair, you probably flew with us! But as to our experiences, yes, likely not safe to write about so much. I suspect a very large % of those who make commentary in the public about The Voice have never been near an indigenous community to see what life is like and to see how much has been done/spent to help :(
I’m getting rather tiresome of this ridiculous situation.
It’s about time we accept things as they are.
There was a battle 200 years ago. The British won. These people who are wanting the land back, which in fact, belongs to God, weren’t even born at that time. They need to get over it. Your ancestors lost. It’s not yours. It never was.
Welcome to the country. What a flipping joke! I was born here I don’t need to be welcomed to my own country.
How about the Albanese government takes the money they’re wasting on the referendum for “the voice “ and use it to fix the Economy, fix Health, fix Defence just for starters.....I could go on!!
And I deliberately said “the voice” because it will do so little in improving anything....in fact it’ll do the contrary.
Anyone who votes 'yes' is voting to eradicate the democratic rights and freedoms of their children, grandchildren and nieces and nephews. Anyone who votes 'yes' is voting yes to racial discrimination.
If this 'voice' referendum gets through, we will be told where we can and can't set foot in our own country. Anyone who owns land will be taxed on it. If this 'voice' referendum gets through, we can all kiss goodbye to Australia as we know it - a democratic, free country.
Yes, that's exactly right. That's why we need to fight against this. Because if we don't, it's more or less democratic suicide for Australia. And in its place, we would see the birth of a Marxist/socialist/communist society where the basic democratic freedoms that we enjoy today, will be lost forever. This is so 'un-Australian'. I mean, is this really what people want???
Nothing like being told that I should be welcomed to a country that I was born in. This is beyond a joke… relentless rubbish by all the woke and corporations. Everyone I know won’t be voting for it
I'm wondering how the government, who is supposed to be offering a fair and free opportunity for Australian's to vote, is even allowed to be funding all the propaganda we are seeing. Surely to be a legitimate referendum, they would need to voice both sides? Or completely shut up?
Also, which sports are getting a kickback to further influence a 'yes' vote?
I can't vote as I'm a Kiwi, but I know what my vote would be.
Because you live here. Presumably you like living here and have been here a while. You are interested enough to form an opinion and are prepared to comment. So why not become a citizen? Make a commitment. You are like many living in a de facto relationship, wanting all the advantages of the relationship but refusing to actually make a long term commitment to the other person and before your family and friends.
Firstly, I will overlook your assumption that we are 'refusing' to become citizens.
Yes, I do love living here, and yes I've been here over a decade, so our lives are based here. Our kids, grandkids, friends, church and businesses are all here.
Do you actually know how difficult it is for Kiwis to become citizens? Most Australians don't. We are blessed have special category visa status. This means we don't have to jump through hoops to move here, and there are certain things we have access to, like Medicare, and some study options, but in order to apply for citizenship, we first need to change our visa status to 'residential,' which means we lose any privileges of being Kiwis, with no guarantee of ever being granted citizenship. Plus, the process can take years and cost thousands.
Recently, however, Albanese has opened up the opportunity for us to become citizens and we are planning to do so next month.
It's worth noting that Aussies moving to NZ can have full citizenship after a few years. The right to vote, to the dole, to serve in the police, army etc. It used to be reciprocal here for Kiwis but that all changed in 2001.
Thankyou Mary for explaining your situation. I have always assumed that it was easy and nearly automatic that kiwis could become aust citizens as soon as they wanted to.
I have met lots of kiwis , easily identified by accent , (such as being unable to count from 5 to 7 in Australian english and a few other words. Have you noticed the different regional and class accents here in aust?). Most have been here a long time or are part maori working here and going home to see their families regularly.
Racism has now become racism against whites by blacks. Whites are not racist against blacks.
Labor has removed our rights under the crown, Magna Carta and the Bill of rights 1688 and now they want us to approve a racist change to our constitution that will enable Labor to stop anything the LNP want to do if they ever win government again.
That won't be easy as they have been using massive voter fraud like the Dems in the US and the left in France, Canada, Argentina, NZ, most of Europe and even here in Australia to win every election even when all the people know they lost. Konnech is the key to voter fraud and we need to get them out of our vote counting.
No one really wants Communism and that is why they call it all sorts of other names and use Plandemics and ACC to push their totalitarian control over the people. The Voice is just one more hurdle they want to put in the way of those that want to stop them. It has nothing to do with helping Aboriginals, it is a political move.
Once they gain total control they will take everything we own, we will have nothing, but I am pretty sure we won't be happy about it.
I immediately turned off the station the moment welcome began . I’ve noticed as I went through the Woolworth checkout today the advert for ‘ Voice ‘ came on . Had I not had my groceries already going through I would’ve walked out leaving them there . This campaign has gone overboard & ridiculous.
That's exactly right, Kay. During the time of the covid vaccine scam, governments and big businesses all did this same thing - brain-washing and shoving this rubbish down people's throat until they conform. Just like what happened during the covid scam, they are hounding the public with the same mind-numbing, insulting rhetoric, with no details or truth attached, whatsoever. This is a Marxist/socialist way of doing things. It is all overboard & ridiculous and a downright disgrace.
Well said James, being a 5th generation indigenous Australian, way back to the First baker in Parramatta, I don't need welcoming to my country.
I simply ignore this boring piffle and waffle, turn off the volume, leave the room and do something more enlightening like cleaning my teeth, blowing more nose and anything more entertaining than this drivel and return to watch the event, whatever it may be.
When I attend a live event, I simply ignore the waste of time and drift off to something more pleasant, like as toothache!!
Thanks, James. I don't follow the sport religion but many do🤪 If the voice gets to rule, could this become a new sport religious service/law and time extended so we can recite their mantra and have various songs, smoke/ incense etc.for an hour or so before all games. We are told that people generally don't have a spiritual belief but sport seems to be the exception. Now that many sports have pledged allegence to the voice, surely they want this and would gladly support. Perhaps school sports will follow likewise?
Sickening. Yet it being so 'over the top' it may indeed influence more to resist this attempted change to our Constitution. I lived in the NT for 17 years, including working and 'living' with indigenous folk for 8 years. I have a lot of stories I could share. But won't.
I know what you mean, Steve. I spent most of my life in Northern Australia: Darwin, Maningrida (Arnhem Land) Torres Strait, Cairns. I could write books, but it wouldn't be safe! Some books by Ian Idriess would be burned in public today for being "politically incorrect".
LOL, the bible has the complete history of genealogy back to Adam and that has been calculated by Bishop Ussher who wrote, "The annals of the world" (originally published in Latin in 1650, is an unparalleled academic chronology of both sacred and secular history) using a large library of history books as well as the bible to be 6,027 years ago on 23 October this year.
I am not going to speculate on how long demons were around before that as I don't consider them human beings. Down through the ages many people have been possessed by demons and they may have given them false memories or views from their own past.
Ancient history at universities always considered the bible as the work that other histories and discoveries were measured by as it has always been accurate with all the national historical documents that have been discovered. Since the Communists took over they have no standards, like to pull down statues and burn books. There are mythical stories in many cultures, but we can understand that they have either been possessed or smoking something too strong for their brains too.
I worked for Connellan Airways/Connair, you probably flew with us! But as to our experiences, yes, likely not safe to write about so much. I suspect a very large % of those who make commentary in the public about The Voice have never been near an indigenous community to see what life is like and to see how much has been done/spent to help :(
I’m getting rather tiresome of this ridiculous situation.
It’s about time we accept things as they are.
There was a battle 200 years ago. The British won. These people who are wanting the land back, which in fact, belongs to God, weren’t even born at that time. They need to get over it. Your ancestors lost. It’s not yours. It never was.
Welcome to the country. What a flipping joke! I was born here I don’t need to be welcomed to my own country.
How about the Albanese government takes the money they’re wasting on the referendum for “the voice “ and use it to fix the Economy, fix Health, fix Defence just for starters.....I could go on!!
And I deliberately said “the voice” because it will do so little in improving anything....in fact it’ll do the contrary.
Well Karl, you ain't MY UNCLE.😤
How much were you paid for your piffle? YOU really helped the NO vote immensely..👏👏👏
P.s I also don't need a welcome to my OWN COUNTRY!🙄
Anyone who votes 'yes' is voting to eradicate the democratic rights and freedoms of their children, grandchildren and nieces and nephews. Anyone who votes 'yes' is voting yes to racial discrimination.
If this 'voice' referendum gets through, we will be told where we can and can't set foot in our own country. Anyone who owns land will be taxed on it. If this 'voice' referendum gets through, we can all kiss goodbye to Australia as we know it - a democratic, free country.
My assessment:
"If it is the Voice's will,
it can make all wheels stand still"
Another Republic referendum comes next if the Yes voice vote gets up
Yes, that's exactly right. That's why we need to fight against this. Because if we don't, it's more or less democratic suicide for Australia. And in its place, we would see the birth of a Marxist/socialist/communist society where the basic democratic freedoms that we enjoy today, will be lost forever. This is so 'un-Australian'. I mean, is this really what people want???
Nothing like being told that I should be welcomed to a country that I was born in. This is beyond a joke… relentless rubbish by all the woke and corporations. Everyone I know won’t be voting for it
Hear, hear!
I'm wondering how the government, who is supposed to be offering a fair and free opportunity for Australian's to vote, is even allowed to be funding all the propaganda we are seeing. Surely to be a legitimate referendum, they would need to voice both sides? Or completely shut up?
Also, which sports are getting a kickback to further influence a 'yes' vote?
I can't vote as I'm a Kiwi, but I know what my vote would be.
Why don't you become a citizen or go back home. Your choice.
Why would you even ask that?
Because you live here. Presumably you like living here and have been here a while. You are interested enough to form an opinion and are prepared to comment. So why not become a citizen? Make a commitment. You are like many living in a de facto relationship, wanting all the advantages of the relationship but refusing to actually make a long term commitment to the other person and before your family and friends.
Firstly, I will overlook your assumption that we are 'refusing' to become citizens.
Yes, I do love living here, and yes I've been here over a decade, so our lives are based here. Our kids, grandkids, friends, church and businesses are all here.
Do you actually know how difficult it is for Kiwis to become citizens? Most Australians don't. We are blessed have special category visa status. This means we don't have to jump through hoops to move here, and there are certain things we have access to, like Medicare, and some study options, but in order to apply for citizenship, we first need to change our visa status to 'residential,' which means we lose any privileges of being Kiwis, with no guarantee of ever being granted citizenship. Plus, the process can take years and cost thousands.
Recently, however, Albanese has opened up the opportunity for us to become citizens and we are planning to do so next month.
It's worth noting that Aussies moving to NZ can have full citizenship after a few years. The right to vote, to the dole, to serve in the police, army etc. It used to be reciprocal here for Kiwis but that all changed in 2001.
Thankyou Mary for explaining your situation. I have always assumed that it was easy and nearly automatic that kiwis could become aust citizens as soon as they wanted to.
I have met lots of kiwis , easily identified by accent , (such as being unable to count from 5 to 7 in Australian english and a few other words. Have you noticed the different regional and class accents here in aust?). Most have been here a long time or are part maori working here and going home to see their families regularly.
Good luck with your application for citizenship.
Thank you Andrew.
Racism has now become racism against whites by blacks. Whites are not racist against blacks.
Labor has removed our rights under the crown, Magna Carta and the Bill of rights 1688 and now they want us to approve a racist change to our constitution that will enable Labor to stop anything the LNP want to do if they ever win government again.
That won't be easy as they have been using massive voter fraud like the Dems in the US and the left in France, Canada, Argentina, NZ, most of Europe and even here in Australia to win every election even when all the people know they lost. Konnech is the key to voter fraud and we need to get them out of our vote counting.
No one really wants Communism and that is why they call it all sorts of other names and use Plandemics and ACC to push their totalitarian control over the people. The Voice is just one more hurdle they want to put in the way of those that want to stop them. It has nothing to do with helping Aboriginals, it is a political move.
Once they gain total control they will take everything we own, we will have nothing, but I am pretty sure we won't be happy about it.
I immediately turned off the station the moment welcome began . I’ve noticed as I went through the Woolworth checkout today the advert for ‘ Voice ‘ came on . Had I not had my groceries already going through I would’ve walked out leaving them there . This campaign has gone overboard & ridiculous.
That's exactly right, Kay. During the time of the covid vaccine scam, governments and big businesses all did this same thing - brain-washing and shoving this rubbish down people's throat until they conform. Just like what happened during the covid scam, they are hounding the public with the same mind-numbing, insulting rhetoric, with no details or truth attached, whatsoever. This is a Marxist/socialist way of doing things. It is all overboard & ridiculous and a downright disgrace.
Well said James, being a 5th generation indigenous Australian, way back to the First baker in Parramatta, I don't need welcoming to my country.
I simply ignore this boring piffle and waffle, turn off the volume, leave the room and do something more enlightening like cleaning my teeth, blowing more nose and anything more entertaining than this drivel and return to watch the event, whatever it may be.
When I attend a live event, I simply ignore the waste of time and drift off to something more pleasant, like as toothache!!
My TV mute button has never seen so much use. No prizes for guessing where my vote has always been going. Well said once again James.
Thanks, James. I don't follow the sport religion but many do🤪 If the voice gets to rule, could this become a new sport religious service/law and time extended so we can recite their mantra and have various songs, smoke/ incense etc.for an hour or so before all games. We are told that people generally don't have a spiritual belief but sport seems to be the exception. Now that many sports have pledged allegence to the voice, surely they want this and would gladly support. Perhaps school sports will follow likewise?
So sick of political agendas moving into our sporting stadiums, schools, work places....the list goes on!
Sickening. Yet it being so 'over the top' it may indeed influence more to resist this attempted change to our Constitution. I lived in the NT for 17 years, including working and 'living' with indigenous folk for 8 years. I have a lot of stories I could share. But won't.
I know what you mean, Steve. I spent most of my life in Northern Australia: Darwin, Maningrida (Arnhem Land) Torres Strait, Cairns. I could write books, but it wouldn't be safe! Some books by Ian Idriess would be burned in public today for being "politically incorrect".