Australian Broadcasting Corporation boss Kim Williams was asked yesterday what he thought about podcaster Joe Rogan.
For those who don’t know, Rogan is the world’s most popular podcaster.
His long form interviews - typically three hours in length - are simple conversations with fascinating people.
He has interviewed everyone from Elon Musk to Jordan Peterson and Bernie Sanders.
Famously, he had Donald Trump on his program just before the November 6 election.
It was a brilliant podcast because none of it was scripted - it was just Joe and Donald chatting like normal people.
Joe Rogan doesn’t ask “gotcha questions”. He just converses with his guests and it’s anyone’s guess as to where the conversation ends up.
But, of course, a three hour conversation means politicians can’t just hide behind their pre-prepared talking points.
It’s why Trump did so well. And it’s why Kamala Harris refused to go on the show.
You can’t say “Well, I was raised in a middle class family …” for three hours!
But back to the ABC boss. What did he think of Joe Rogan’s huge popularity?
Kim Williams told journalists at the Canberra Press Club yesterday that doesn’t listen to Joe Rogan.
And then he had this to say about Joe Rogan, which was quite remarkable for a man who has never listened to Joe Rogan …
"People like Mr. Rogan prey on people's vulnerabilities. They prey on fear. They prey on anxiety.
"I personally find it deeply repulsive, and to think that someone has such remarkable power in the United States is something that I look at in disbelief
"I'm also absolutely in dismay that this can be a source of public entertainment when it's really treating the public as plunder for purposes that are really quite malevolent."
Was Kim Williams describing Joe Rogan? It sounded like he was describing the ABC!
Rogan is repulsive, preying on fear, and quite malevolent, according to the ABC boss.
I can picture Kim Williams hiding under his bed when he hears Joe Rogan's voice!
As for the charge that Rogan is “treating the public as plunder”, um, isn’t it the ABC that sucks more than a billion dollars a year from the taxpayers’ teat?
But how did Kim Williams, who doesn’t listen to Joe Rogan, know all this about Joe Rogan?
Simple. He just watches the ABC and they tell him what to think. The same as he expects you to watch the ABC in order to know what you should think.
Williams and his ilk hate Rogan and people like him because are in panic mode. They are desperately upset that they no longer get to dictate and control the cultural narratives.
Legacy media bosses hate the two-way conversations that Joe Rogan, and people like him, facilitate and then spread via social media.
For decades they've been dictating what beliefs and opinions people should have, in a top-down, one-way fashion. They can't stand the fact that people are rejecting that now.
Joe Rogan sits down with interesting people and conducts long form conversations.
That people like Kim Williams react so violently to it is evident of just how afraid they are of free thought and expression. They're control freaks who are losing control.
And the reason the legacy media is losing control is because they have manipulated all of us for far too long.
That should have been the lesson from the Trump interview.
The legacy media spent years promoting hatred of Trump to anyone who would listen.
And then, in 3 hours, Joe Rogan showed them all to be liars and propaganda merchants preying on people's vulnerabilities, and fear, and anxiety.
(See what I did there?)
As the Good Lord said, you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
The Rogan interview was a big part of the reason Trump won on November 6. People were able to listen to him talk and realised he wasn’t Hitler after all.
One more comment …
How can a man like Kim Williams, with such one sided and ill informed views, be the right person to run our “unbiased” national broadcaster?
Joe Rogan is a con. Misleading all us "uneducated" "deplorables" and feeding us full of disinformation on his 3 hour podcast. Yes it is really repulsive, we should play it safe and get our "only source of truth" via the in-depth un-biased 30 second coverage via the ABC's interpretation of the stories on the tellie. Yeah, right. Who is he kidding. Oh! yeah the media bubble. Talk about repulsive. Spot on James
James you nailed it so well. What is it with the ABC chair Kim Williams and previous chair Ita Buttrose? Such high hopes that they would somehow change the ABC left biased culture, to be more balanced.
However no sooner in the role and they both imbibed of the ‘Kool-aid’ of lefty woke opinions, aligning themselves with ALL who work at the ABC.